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	<title>Comments on: Detholz! &#8220;Cast Out Devils&#8221; demo &#8211; &#8220;Club Oslo&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: detholz</title>
		<link>http://detholz.wordpress.com/2008/03/26/detholz-cast-out-devils-demo-club-oslo/#comment-1940</link>
		<dc:creator>detholz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 19:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim: Thanks for coming out, as always.  Especially on such a shittay night.  That show was a lot more fun than it probably should have been!

&#039;Bab: Cast Out Devils falls into a different category for me than Club Oslo.  Or, at least as far as I remember, I thought that Cast Out Devils was a more complex song, esp. with all of those awkward accents in the verses.  Those took some whacking at in rehearsal, as I recall.

Music is like beer: some people like the IPA, others the stout.  Still others the Hefeweizen or the Pilsner.  Still others want to suck down a Bud Lite before a relaxing roll in the hay with Milton Berle.  To each his own!  

And don&#039;t worry about hurting my feelings.  If you listen closely to these songs, you know I don&#039;t have any.

Amy: I also prefer the full band version.  Most of the songs we&#039;ve ever done over the years sound 50-100 times improved when the other DH! play them -- as opposed to just me and my merry band of mechanical munchkins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim: Thanks for coming out, as always.  Especially on such a shittay night.  That show was a lot more fun than it probably should have been!</p>
<p>&#8216;Bab: Cast Out Devils falls into a different category for me than Club Oslo.  Or, at least as far as I remember, I thought that Cast Out Devils was a more complex song, esp. with all of those awkward accents in the verses.  Those took some whacking at in rehearsal, as I recall.</p>
<p>Music is like beer: some people like the IPA, others the stout.  Still others the Hefeweizen or the Pilsner.  Still others want to suck down a Bud Lite before a relaxing roll in the hay with Milton Berle.  To each his own!  </p>
<p>And don&#8217;t worry about hurting my feelings.  If you listen closely to these songs, you know I don&#8217;t have any.</p>
<p>Amy: I also prefer the full band version.  Most of the songs we&#8217;ve ever done over the years sound 50-100 times improved when the other DH! play them &#8212; as opposed to just me and my merry band of mechanical munchkins.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
		<link>http://detholz.wordpress.com/2008/03/26/detholz-cast-out-devils-demo-club-oslo/#comment-1930</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 10:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Album version definitely rocks more than the demo. The demo&#039;s more like &quot;Club Oslo in a Can.&quot; That said, the abovementioned polyrhythm kicks ass, and the demo gets better as it goes along.

The thing about the album cut is that it has a frenzied, desperate aspect that doesn&#039;t quite come across in the demo. There&#039;s more emotion there. The urgency really makes the track.

Still, I&#039;d dance to either one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Album version definitely rocks more than the demo. The demo&#8217;s more like &#8220;Club Oslo in a Can.&#8221; That said, the abovementioned polyrhythm kicks ass, and the demo gets better as it goes along.</p>
<p>The thing about the album cut is that it has a frenzied, desperate aspect that doesn&#8217;t quite come across in the demo. There&#8217;s more emotion there. The urgency really makes the track.</p>
<p>Still, I&#8217;d dance to either one.</p>
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		<title>By: kebabdylan</title>
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		<dc:creator>kebabdylan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh and I should add, when stieny breaks into his hand clap dance routine - best moment of any detholz show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh and I should add, when stieny breaks into his hand clap dance routine &#8211; best moment of any detholz show.</p>
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		<title>By: kebabdylan</title>
		<link>http://detholz.wordpress.com/2008/03/26/detholz-cast-out-devils-demo-club-oslo/#comment-1928</link>
		<dc:creator>kebabdylan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am, indeed, a self-acknowledging music snob with a great disdain for &quot;the common man&quot; - blame american idol for that.  But i too like straightforward songs as well. Would you not agree that &quot;cast out devils&quot; itself would fall into the &quot;more straightforward&quot; bucket? One of my favorite DH songs! COD evokes something in me that CO does not. 

And the only reason I EVER danced around to this song was because I was worried about hurting your feelings ;-). I think I can boil my &quot;not getting&quot; this one down to the drums and keyboards. I think if it was recorded with a more &quot;dirty&quot; guitar sounds and less synthy drum beats, I&#039;d like it better. I do enjoy hearing it live. Not as much as other songs, but it IS indeed a very fun song.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am, indeed, a self-acknowledging music snob with a great disdain for &#8220;the common man&#8221; &#8211; blame american idol for that.  But i too like straightforward songs as well. Would you not agree that &#8220;cast out devils&#8221; itself would fall into the &#8220;more straightforward&#8221; bucket? One of my favorite DH songs! COD evokes something in me that CO does not. </p>
<p>And the only reason I EVER danced around to this song was because I was worried about hurting your feelings <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> . I think I can boil my &#8220;not getting&#8221; this one down to the drums and keyboards. I think if it was recorded with a more &#8220;dirty&#8221; guitar sounds and less synthy drum beats, I&#8217;d like it better. I do enjoy hearing it live. Not as much as other songs, but it IS indeed a very fun song.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMA Believer: Now that&#039;s a a song that I liked the demo of more than the album version. It seemed more energetic, the vocal performance is more lively, and the recording quality seemed pretty darn good.

And excellent show last night, Coop. It&#039;s good to not stand out quite so much when I&#039;m trying to &quot;dance&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMA Believer: Now that&#8217;s a a song that I liked the demo of more than the album version. It seemed more energetic, the vocal performance is more lively, and the recording quality seemed pretty darn good.</p>
<p>And excellent show last night, Coop. It&#8217;s good to not stand out quite so much when I&#8217;m trying to &#8220;dance&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: detholz</title>
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		<dc:creator>detholz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim: Dr. Jacoby strikes again!  From what I remember (glug) that was pretty much the perfect Maplewood Halloween party.

I can see why Detholz! graybeards might not take to this song.  It&#039;s definitely a lot more straightforward than other fare on Cast Out Devils.  Proof&#039;s in the pudding, though-- it gets a consistently strong response live.

I remember seeing you out there more than once shaking your money-maker to this.

&#039;Bab: I tend to write in spurts of songs-- like 4 or 5 at once and then nothing for weeks and weeks.  This was written alongside other Cast Out Devils tunes like &quot;Psychotherapy&quot; and &quot;Chapel of Love.&quot;  I suppose that was the official beginning of our break from the past.

Given the DH! songs you seem to gravitate towards, I can see why this one doesn&#039;t turn your crank as much.

BP: Yeah.  Pure accident!  I wish I was that smart, but Mother Nature decided to contribute to this song.  Always a pleasure when she drops by.

DJ: So, it&#039;s a DH! &quot;supersong&quot; (like a &quot;supergroup&quot;)?

As in &#039;Bab&#039;s case, I can see why this one doesn&#039;t appeal as much to fans of Old Detholz!.  It&#039;s repetitive, the chord changes are fairly straightforward, and rides along in your average ABACAB taxi.

I&#039;m convinced, though, that were a major label to touch &quot;Cast Out Devils&quot; with a 10-foot pole (imagine that we&#039;re living in a parallel universe), &quot;Club Oslo&quot; would be a radio single along with &quot;IMA Believer.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim: Dr. Jacoby strikes again!  From what I remember (glug) that was pretty much the perfect Maplewood Halloween party.</p>
<p>I can see why Detholz! graybeards might not take to this song.  It&#8217;s definitely a lot more straightforward than other fare on Cast Out Devils.  Proof&#8217;s in the pudding, though&#8211; it gets a consistently strong response live.</p>
<p>I remember seeing you out there more than once shaking your money-maker to this.</p>
<p>&#8216;Bab: I tend to write in spurts of songs&#8211; like 4 or 5 at once and then nothing for weeks and weeks.  This was written alongside other Cast Out Devils tunes like &#8220;Psychotherapy&#8221; and &#8220;Chapel of Love.&#8221;  I suppose that was the official beginning of our break from the past.</p>
<p>Given the DH! songs you seem to gravitate towards, I can see why this one doesn&#8217;t turn your crank as much.</p>
<p>BP: Yeah.  Pure accident!  I wish I was that smart, but Mother Nature decided to contribute to this song.  Always a pleasure when she drops by.</p>
<p>DJ: So, it&#8217;s a DH! &#8220;supersong&#8221; (like a &#8220;supergroup&#8221;)?</p>
<p>As in &#8216;Bab&#8217;s case, I can see why this one doesn&#8217;t appeal as much to fans of Old Detholz!.  It&#8217;s repetitive, the chord changes are fairly straightforward, and rides along in your average ABACAB taxi.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m convinced, though, that were a major label to touch &#8220;Cast Out Devils&#8221; with a 10-foot pole (imagine that we&#8217;re living in a parallel universe), &#8220;Club Oslo&#8221; would be a radio single along with &#8220;IMA Believer.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really wouldn&#039;t have expected such dull drum reactions to this one (the song, not the version). Very interesting considering the sell ability and &quot;time to get pumped&quot; kind of attitude it brings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really wouldn&#8217;t have expected such dull drum reactions to this one (the song, not the version). Very interesting considering the sell ability and &#8220;time to get pumped&#8221; kind of attitude it brings.</p>
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		<title>By: dj</title>
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		<dc:creator>dj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O.K. So how do I say this?

Club Oslo is one of those songs that combine everything I like about the Detholz, and it creates a song that I don&#039;t really like.

The intro guitar riff -- like.
The keyboard wackiness - like.
The falsetto vocals - like.

But somehow, they come together a bit odd at Club Oslo. Live, it&#039;s a bit more energetic and it&#039;s more fun. You also tend to extend the keyboard noodling live. Maybe it&#039;s the drum machine snare sound on the album track and demo?

Live, you guys rock this one out. But on the album, this is a track that I skip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O.K. So how do I say this?</p>
<p>Club Oslo is one of those songs that combine everything I like about the Detholz, and it creates a song that I don&#8217;t really like.</p>
<p>The intro guitar riff &#8212; like.<br />
The keyboard wackiness &#8211; like.<br />
The falsetto vocals &#8211; like.</p>
<p>But somehow, they come together a bit odd at Club Oslo. Live, it&#8217;s a bit more energetic and it&#8217;s more fun. You also tend to extend the keyboard noodling live. Maybe it&#8217;s the drum machine snare sound on the album track and demo?</p>
<p>Live, you guys rock this one out. But on the album, this is a track that I skip.</p>
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		<title>By: bp</title>
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		<dc:creator>bp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, you&#039;re totally right!  Those polyrhythms in the bridge are amazing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, you&#8217;re totally right!  Those polyrhythms in the bridge are amazing!</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 12:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yes. The new detholz era. Got me hooked. For  better or for worse, it got me dancing in public too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yes. The new detholz era. Got me hooked. For  better or for worse, it got me dancing in public too.</p>
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